Episode Nine: Ode to Grief

Full disclosure: this episode was supposed to be about joy. We had planned to have a conversation about finding hope and light in these dark times, but ultimately we just couldn’t do it. So here you have it: an episode entirely devoted to processing those tough emotions that come alone with every new climate report and every news cycle.

We spoke with Trebbe Johnson about her upcoming book, Radical Joy for Hard Times about taking the good with the bad, and learning to love places that have been irrevocably changed.

Heather Tourgee